Sample rate question

topic posted Fri, October 26, 2007 - 1:40 AM by  Eitan
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Hi...
If I did a whole project in 44.1, does it make sense to bounce it out to 48 or 96 in the mix process? Since it's going to end up 44.1 in the end anyway, is there any advantage or disadvantage to doing so? I do have some reverbs and fx and stuff running...
Thanks in advance.
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Eitan
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  • Re: Sample rate question

    Fri, October 26, 2007 - 8:39 AM
    While there might be a slight improvement at 96 kHz, because of reverbs and other plug-ins, I wouldn't bother. You've already limited yourself at 44.1 kHz and upsampling just to bounce won't really do a whole lot.

    BTW, the difference between 44.1 kHz and 48 kHz at 16 bits is so miniscule that you are extremely unlikely (if even capable) to hear any difference. At 24-bit, you gain considerably more.
    • Re: Sample rate question

      Fri, October 26, 2007 - 10:00 AM
      I agree with Jory about the bit depth, but it's my understanding most mastering places want 96/24 files. I found personally in mastering, when (ahem, sorry to audio purists out there) clipping my converters, that it works with 96/24 much better than with 44/24... The benefit you gain is most plugins upsample to 96kHz and then downsample to the 44.1 stream. So if you bounce to 96 there is no downsampling and the plugins perform better, you might hear this in reverb tails, etc. At least this happens with UA plugs which I mostly use. But either way you end up at 44.1/16 for CD so you don't really gain much as Jory stated.
      • Re: Sample rate question

        Fri, October 26, 2007 - 10:09 AM
        Most mastering facilities I've worked at wanted the files at either 44.1 kHz or 88.2 kHz and not at 48 or 96. But the choice isn't up to them, is it?

        I work at 48/24 and I ask that mastering be done one the hi-res as well as the resulting 44/16 files for CD master.
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    Re: Sample rate question

    Fri, October 26, 2007 - 11:15 AM
    Keep it at the same resolution as your session ( So 44,100khz)
    Make sure you understand that Samplerate & Bitdepth are completely different.
    Resampling in any direction is lossy (up or down) will have artifacts. Its good practice to start your sessions at whatever samplerate your final medium is. For most music currently that will be 44100. For video that will be 48,000. I do some 96000 mastering for blue-ray but most HD content is still 48k. Do to the fact that most audio gear operates in the 20-20,000khz frequency spectrum, Samplerate has very little to do with audio quality once you get over 44100. Its more for compatibility. Bit depth is a whole other story.
    • Re: Sample rate question

      Fri, October 26, 2007 - 3:33 PM
      yeah ... I agree with eRic ... if your in 24 bit 48k you still need to dither down to 44.1 16bit which is inserting white noise in strategic portions of the track and upsampling would be like converting an mp3 to wav.

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